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Taylor Swift made her extremely anticipated podcast debut on New Heights, hosted by boyfriend Travis Kelce and his brother Jason Kelce.
The pop famous person used the looks to announce her new album, The Lifetime of a Showgirl, and provides some updates on her life for the reason that Eras Tour, which ran nearly two years and spanned 5 continents earlier than ending in December.
Greater than 1.3 million tuned in stay for the programme as Swift provided insights into her relationship with Travis, the infamous easter eggs she crops in music for followers and even titbits on her sourdough-bread-baking pastime.
It marked a change for megastar, who’s infamous for not giving interviews and as an alternative sharing updates on her life by way of tune lyrics, which frenzied followers analyse and piece collectively.
The American soccer star brothers provided a heat welcome to Swift, calling her “Tay Tay” and operating by way of an inventory of her many awards.
Teaser clips of the New Heights podcast went viral earlier than her episode aired, together with one video clip the place Swift unveils a briefcase with “TS” on it and pulls out her new twelfth studio album, which will probably be out there 3 October.
The document was concurrently made out there for pre-order on her web site – which additionally had a countdown clock to the second when she would seem on the podcast.
Right here is a few of what we discovered from her greater than hour-long look.
Poking enjoyable at male sports activities followers
The episode begins with a screaming introduction from Jason, the previous Philadelphia Eagles participant, who runs by way of an extended record of his brother’s girlfriend’s accomplishments, together with being the one artist to win the album of the 12 months Grammy 4 occasions.
Swift sat beside Travis, chuckling alongside earlier than thanking Jason for his enthusiasm.
She then went on to poke enjoyable at her showing on a podcast that usually caters to American soccer followers.
“As everyone knows, , you guys have quite a lot of male sports activities followers that hearken to your podcast,” she mentioned.
“I believe everyone knows that if there’s one factor that male sports activities followers need of their areas and on their screens, it is extra of me,” she deadpanned, wanting straight into the digicam.
Swift’s appearance at Kansas City Chiefs games prompted a frenzy over time. In 2023 when the pair began courting and he or she began making appearances, recreation cameras regarded for the singer within the stands – slicing to her greater than a dozen occasions throughout some video games.
The NFL promoted her appearances at video games closely on social media, posting movies and tweets in regards to the singer and her celeb entourage that usually accompanied her.
Some soccer followers weren’t pleased with the brand new focus.
Swift was booed by NFL followers throughout her look on the jumbotron display on the Tremendous Bowl final February, which drew headlines and even social media posts by President Donald Trump.
However regardless of the criticism, Jason assured her that she has been the “most requested visitor on the podcast”. Different latest friends on the present embody basketball stars Caitlin Clark, Shaquille O’Neal and LeBron James, and actors Brad Pitt, Ben Affleck, Invoice Murray and Adam Sandler.
What the duvet of her new album seems to be like
Because the countdown clock ran down on her web site and the podcast began, Swift’s web site up to date with the duvet of her twelfth studio album.
The Lifetime of a Showgirl options Swift carrying a bralette emblazoned with diamonds mendacity in turquoise inexperienced.
She is seen submerged within the water, with solely her face above the floor.
The web site to pre-order the album began crashing as quickly because the podcast started, with customers receiving error messages. It is going to be launched 3 October, in accordance with her web site.
Inside seconds of the podcast starting, practically a million individuals had began watching on YouTube. About half-hour into the episode, greater than 1.3 million had been tuning in.
Swift says the podcast ‘obtained me a boyfriend’
Swift was requested why she selected to look on the podcast, which caters primarily to sports activities followers.
“This podcast has finished loads for me. This podcast obtained me a boyfriend,” she mentioned, accusing Travis of utilizing the podcast as his “private courting app” earlier than he met her.
Earlier than they began courting – and even met – Travis famously gushed on the podcast about attending one in every of Swift’s concert events and being saddened after they could not meet. He talked about making her a beaded friendship bracelet, which had been standard throughout the Eras Tour, and mentioned he wished to provide her his telephone quantity.
She mentioned the clip, which went viral, felt nearly like “he was standing exterior of my condominium, holding a growth field saying, ‘I need to go on a date with you'”.
She mentioned this was precisely the second she had “been writing songs about, eager to occur to me since I used to be a teen”.
“It was wild, nevertheless it labored… He is the nice type of loopy,” she mentioned, calling her boyfriend “a human exclamation level”.
She mentioned she was circling again to the podcast present as a approach to say thanks.
Insights into how she crafts her hidden easter eggs
She additionally spoke about all of the methods she makes use of easter eggs to tease her music and plant hidden clues for followers.
She mentioned she has guidelines for the hidden clues in her music and performances.
“I am by no means going to plant an easter egg that ties again to my private life. It is all the time going to return to my music,” she defined, joking that a few of followers have gotten so good at decoding her that it is nearly gotten a bit “zodiac killer”.
The hidden clues are “one thing that you do not know I am saying for a selected motive, however you may return and be like ‘Oh my God!'”
She mentioned that her favorite instance was a speech she gave when she acquired an honourary doctorate.
“I put so many lyrical easter eggs in that speech that when the Midnights album got here out, after that, the followers had been like, ‘The entire speech was an easter egg!'”
She spoke about her love of numbers and dates. “I like math stuff,” she mentioned, calling out 13 as her favorite quantity. Travis, she mentioned, is “87” – the quantity he wears on his jersey throughout video games – and he or she famous that 13 plus 87 equals 100.
A few of her hidden messages are so complicated, she mentioned, they’re crafted “the other way up, backwards in Braille”.
Swift did not learn about soccer – till Travis

Swift mentioned that she knew nothing about soccer earlier than their romance started.
“I did not know what a primary down was,” or a “tight-end,” (which is the place Travis performs), she mentioned.
She mentioned she appreciated Travis’ persistence and understanding after they began courting and introducing her to his world.
She’s now discovered herself personally invested – citing an episode the place she discovered herself focused on a latest participant commerce. She recalled considering to herself: “Who physique snatched me?”
Travis informed her that he will probably be “perpetually grateful” that she dove totally into his world “wholeheartedly”.
Taylor will get emotional talking about her masters
In Might this 12 months, it was introduced that she had bought the rights to her first six albums, ending a long-running and extremely publicised battle over the possession of her music.
After her authentic masters offered, she vowed to re-record all six albums, which grew to become generally known as “Taylor’s Variations”.
Swift grew emotional as she defined the method by which she bought her grasp recordings, after attempting for a complete decade to safe the rights.
She mentioned she was not within the monetary “returns” the albums would deliver.
“For me it isn’t ‘I need to personal this asset due to its returns’,” she mentioned. “I need this as a result of it was my handwritten diary entries from my complete life.”
She mentioned that her mom and brother talked with with Shamrock Capital, a Los Angeles-based funding agency, about buying her music.
When her mom known as her, saying “You bought your music,” she mentioned: “I simply very dramatically hit the ground. For actual.”
“Bawling my eyes out, and simply weeping. And similar to ‘Actually? Actually? What do you imply?'”
“This modified my life,” she continued. “I am unable to imagine it nonetheless.”
Which model of her albums ought to followers hearken to?
She additionally thanked loyal followers for listening to her re-recorded albums, saying they reacted to the dispute over rights to her music with the Western cowboy expression, “We journey at daybreak”.
She additionally mentioned that it was by way of her followers that she was in a position to purchase again her music.
“The rationale I used to be in a position to buy my music again is, they got here to the Eras Tour,” she mentioned.
She was additionally requested which variations of her albums her followers ought to hearken to – now that she owns each variations.
“I believe quite a lot of the vocals I did on the re-records had been higher than the unique,” she mentioned, including that she is very keen on the remake of her 2012 album Pink.
Talking about her Eras Tour, which led to December, she instantly drew comparisons to soccer.
“It was quite a lot of bodily remedy. It was quite a lot of being in a state of perpetual discomfort,” she mentioned.
“I am not getting hit by enormous 300-pounders. However the heels!” she mentioned.
She additionally talked about life after the tour. She and Travis spoke fondly about their love, describing how they bake sourdough bread collectively.
His dough winds up with chest hair in it, whereas hers has further cat hair, she joked.
“I had by no means skilled one thing so mesmerising on stage, after which so actual and delightful in particular person,” mentioned Travis.
Jason then joked that perhaps he ought to go away, and provides them some privateness, as Swift swooned.
“Yeah I believe so, actually,” Swift responded. “At this level, I believe everybody ought to go away.”
Whereas Swift has at occasions been shy about discussing her relationship in public, Travis has been extra outspoken. Earlier than the podcast aired, he informed GQ in an interview, “I like being the happiest man on the earth”.
He additionally praised Swift for her athleticism, evaluating her three-hour lengthy concert events to his soccer video games.
“That’s arguably extra exhausting than how a lot I put in on a Sunday, and he or she’s doing it three, 4, 5 days in a row,” he mentioned.