Madonna Opens Up About Her ‘Spiritual Life’ to Jay Shetty (Exclusive)

Madonna is lifting the curtain on her spirituality.

On Monday, the Queen of Pop, 67, is ready to make her first-ever podcast interview on a revealing new episode of On Purpose with Jay Shetty, PEOPLE confirms completely.

Through the dialog, the celebrity and podcast host Jay Shetty have an “open dialog” about Madonna’s decades-long religious journey — which started shortly earlier than the birth of her first child, Lourdes Leon — whereas reflecting on matters together with forgiveness, success and the way learning spirituality has formed her life.

“You should be religious to achieve success. Success is having a religious life, interval. I wouldn’t be right here if I didn’t have one,” Madonna, who first found Kabbalah in 1996, tells Shetty on the episode.

The seven-time Grammy winner has lengthy been embraced by followers for pushing boundaries and utilizing her voice to advocate for human rights — one thing the star says has been a guiding gentle for her.

“What have I completed for others? That is actually the one approach you will be profitable in life,” she tells Shetty. “It is like the best quantity of sunshine is the place there’s darkness and you may reveal essentially the most quantity of sunshine. Once you’re in a darkish room, you activate the sunshine. Once you’re in a room that is already gentle, what do you, there isn’t any, um, effort made. So ought to we search for darkness?

“My soul’s function is to disclose gentle on this planet by way of no matter I do,” she continues, later including, “I need all of it, however I need it for the sake of sharing, to not preserve it for myself.”

Elsewhere within the episode, Madonna — who’s later joined by her Kabbalah instructor Eitan Yardeni (they just lately launched a brand new course titled The Mystical Studies of the Zohar) — acknowledges that she was as soon as “a slave or sufferer of different individuals’s opinions of me.”

However over time, she’s accepted that “I don’t slot in, and never becoming in is what saves you.”

By her ups and downs, the star insists it is her spirituality that has carried her by way of. “Religious knowledge just isn’t useful when the whole lot’s going your approach. It is useful while you’re challenged and while you’re completely happy,” she says.

“It is useful to do not forget that at any given time, in any second, it may very well be gone. So do not take it as a right. Have humility,” she continues. “Radical acceptance is simply accepting that what is going on to you is supposed to occur to you — and that you simply’re going to be okay.”