Wendy Corr:
Effectively, hey there of us, welcome to The Roundup. We’re a Cowboy State Day by day podcast, and we give attention to attention-grabbing individuals within the cowboy state. And as we speak, oh my gosh, this individual is so attention-grabbing, and she or he’s form of hiding in plain sight – as a result of she’s a enterprise individual in Casper, however she has this wonderful expertise and this wonderful different occupation that’s bringing her some actual discover proper now, and we’re so proud to name her a Wyomingite.
That is Dana Volney. She is our visitor as we speak on the Roundup. And Dana not solely has a advertising consulting agency in Casper, she is an creator, and one among her books is being made right into a film with some massive names in it. So I’m simply so thrilled as we speak to introduce to these of you who do not know her, Dana Volney.
Good day, Dana. Welcome to the Roundup!
Dana Volney:
Hey, Wendy. I am so excited to be right here in your podcast with Cowboy State day by day.
Wendy Corr:
Effectively, we’re excited to have you ever, I’ve to say, I am all the time searching for attention-grabbing individuals. And Todd Titus, who’s our promoting supervisor, mentioned, Hey, have you ever talked to Dana Volney? I mentioned, I do not know who Dana Volney is. That you must know Dana Volney, and he began to inform me about her e-book.
And so Dana, let’s begin off with, you’re a Wyoming lady. You have been raised right here. You are a Casper native. Inform us somewhat bit first about your background and what introduced you form of so far in your profession.
Dana Volney:
Effectively, I ended up in Laramie, after all, as most Wyomingites do.
Wendy Corr:
My daughter’s there proper now, sure.
Dana Volney:
Proper. An amazing expertise. Liked it. Go Cowboys. I made a decision to get a advertising diploma as a result of it appeared like the best, truthfully, for me to get. I wasn’t positive what I wished to do with it.
I used to be in property administration on the time, after which after I graduated, I bopped round by myself. I’d simply transfer for various positions to Nebraska and to Seattle, the place I traveled a ton, after which determined it was simply time to come back again, time to come back dwelling and transfer again to Wyoming.
And I used to learn a ton after I would journey in Seattle. I imply, I all the time grew up studying. My mother would take a look at, what? You might take a look at 10 books at a time on the library, and so she all the time had stacks by her mattress.
We grew up studying. She would all the time have Fabio cowl books, which, on the time, like, you do not assume twice about as a child, I had no concept, like, both, they have been simply mother’s books, I do not know. After which after I began studying in Seattle, I began very, like, prolifically studying.
Like, , three or 4 books every week, as a result of I used to be touring, and that was my leisure. And so after I obtained again to Casper, I had been placing it on my listing for some time to jot down a e-book, like my new yr’s resolutions. I am a giant objective setter, and sooner or later, my sister was like, you’ve got been placing this in your listing for years. Simply take a category, do one thing about it.
And so I signed up for a category at Casper School, like one of many evening lessons, just like the outreach lessons, and it was, after all, superior fiction writing, which there was nothing superior about me. And so I simply dove, dove in headfirst.
And from the very first-class, I simply completely fell in love, as a result of I had began tales earlier than that, , all through my life, after I was in Seattle, and that basically taught me loads about ending a narrative, and we’d learn in school, and you’ll get critiques, and it was simply incredible. Fell in love. Have by no means appeared again. That was in 2012, so 13 years in the past,
Wendy Corr:
13 years in the past and 13 books later.
Dana Volney:
Yep. I obtained my first contract in 2013 and it was a vacation e-book, as a result of I’m a vacation movie-obsessed girly. I like the tacky. I like – I do know it should be tacky moving into, and but typically I nonetheless cry, like I simply I find it irresistible. I’m right here for the vacations. They’re simply my favourite.
So that’s, like, the longest like sequence I’ve is six books and it is the vacation sequence, yeah.
Wendy Corr:
However you’ve got different genres too. So that you, you do the vacation books, the form of the Hallmark film formulation books, that are simply, they’re they’re sweet. For these of us who like to learn, in case you’ve been studying a heavy novel, it is like, I want one thing mild, and so you may go to those great books about relationships.
Your vacation books are, I like them. They’re romances, however they don’t seem to be the steamy romances.
Dana Volney:
The vacation books usually are not, they’re meant to be like Hallmark films. They’re candy, , there’s like a kiss in there. They’re simply very clear and simply every thing you need while you consider watching a vacation film. And , it simply form of scratches that itch of candy,
Wendy Corr:
However then, you have obtained the opposite books that you’ve got written. Inform us concerning the thrillers.
Dana Volney:
I like, my nature is suspense. My nature is thriller. I want that in a full size e-book or in reveals that I watch. I get pleasure from every thing else, after all, the romance that comes with it, and other people falling in love, when individuals are taking pictures at their faces and the thrill.
So I positively produce other books which can be steamy, which can be attractive, romantic suspense books, I wish to name them, and so they’re sturdy girls. And like, I’ve one who’s a lady who’s the bodyguard, and she or he’s defending the man.
Wendy Corr:
I’ve downloaded that on my Kindle. I’ve not had an opportunity to learn that but, however I’ve downloaded that one on my Kindle, and so I am able to learn that.
Dana Volney:
That is the primary in a 3 e-book sequence. It is referred to as Defending the Prince. It is the Wyn Safety sequence. And there is a little enjoyable truth, that e-book really began as a twist on Snow White, and in order that’s why he will get poisoned, like, with an apple on the finish and, like, yeah. In order that’s a enjoyable truth about that e-book, is it form of began as a twist on a fairy story.
Wendy Corr:
I am very a lot trying ahead to studying this now. That is nice. So you have obtained these, these 13 books that you’ve got written. You might be vacation e-book obsessed. And I’ve to say, my favourite vacation film, it is referred to as Spirit of Christmas, and it is simply my favourite. And the star in that film is an actress named Jen Lilley.
So how excited was I after I appeared up your e-book that is being made right into a film, to seek out out that Jen Lilley goes to be the star of the film Vacation Hearts, which is predicated in your novella, which is ‘A Coronary heart for the Holidays.’
Inform us about, primary, discovering out that one among your books was picked for a film. How does that work? How do you get notified? How do they even decide?
Dana Volney:
You understand, it’s truthfully a surreal expertise. So the writing business, like quite a lot of industries, may be very predatory, so you need to be careful for scams and stuff like that. And I obtained an e-mail in November of 2023, and I skimmed it. It was like, midday, and I used to be like, Oh, I do not know.
And so I am an evening owl, so I used to be going via my e-mail once more at midnight, and I used to be like, Wait, this feels like, actual. This sounds completely different. And it was from a gentleman named Invoice True, who now I’ve met with a number of instances. He is wonderful.
He is out of Arizona, and he had gotten my e-book, a movie deck that had been made for a distinct writer years earlier than. And he was like, I wish to write the script for this e-book. And so I despatched it to my agent that evening, who’s in Rhode Island, and so the time distinction, however she’s additionally an evening owl.
So I used to be like, Hey, what’s up with this? Do you assume that is actual? And she or he was like, I do not know. He appears legit. Let’s arrange a gathering with him. And so we met with him, like, the next week or one thing, and he’s simply such a enjoyable individual, and he has written scripts earlier than. He is obtained issues in progress, and only a actually cool particular person.
And positive sufficient, he wrote it. We signed the procuring settlement with him. He had the script performed that subsequent March, after which has simply been such a champion along with his connections within the business. And obtained related with Jen Lilley, who simply, I’ve not met her but. Full disclosure, I am so excited to satisfy her quickly.
However from her social media and what Invoice tells me, simply, , fell in love with Silver and Fisher and the script, and has simply been an absolute champion of the crew that they’ve put collectively to deliver this ahead and hopefully begin filming quickly, and it is simply been so thrilling.
The primary time I noticed her speaking about these individuals who stay in my mind and like they’re actual human beings, and simply absolutely the pleasure. And it is a surreal expertise, truthfully, and Invoice has been wonderful about preserving myself and my agent, Tara, who’s wonderful, within the loop.
I do not assume you usually get that like he, I’ve learn the script, which I do not know that writers usually get, as a result of I am not writing the script. I write novels. I write books. It is a completely different beast. And so. It is simply been actually cool to observe that course of, and I am so grateful that Invoice retains me knowledgeable on who they’re casting or what is going on on.
So I get, like, one of the best a part of the curler coaster, as a result of I get the thrilling information or what’s occurring, and I haven’t got to emphasize about making it occur, however I do. My sister and I’ll get to be on set once they movie. We get to be background individuals, and which, I am simply tickled pink about that. I am in a position to try this as a result of my sister can also be a giant vacation film fan, and that was one among her issues.
She was like, get us on set. And I used to be like, I am making an attempt.
Wendy Corr:
And you probably did, and you probably did. Now, after all, speaking about casting, there are some massive names. I imply, Jen Lilley for, , Hallmark film followers, Lifetime, we all know Jen Lilley, however all people is aware of – of us, all people is aware of Kathleen Quinlan. Kathleen Quinlan is on this film. So is Michelle Hurd.
I imply, you hear about films and also you assume they’re gonna get, unnamed individuals, or , individuals who aren’t essentially massive names, however it is a massive deal to get these two highly effective girls, wonderful actresses, to be concerned on this mission, and so they play main, main elements.
In reality, there was an article in Selection journal which named you. How massive of a deal was that so that you can see your identify in Selection journal?
Dana Volney:
It was so cool. I by no means, I did not know to dream that dream. And it was simply wonderful that my identify was in there with the title of the e-book that the film is predicated off of, and simply with the wonderful solid and the interview with Jen, and it was so cool that, like, it was extra like nationwide and other people have been speaking about it, and simply, I do not know, it has been so surreal.
Wendy Corr:
That’s simply so enjoyable. However the different enjoyable factor is, and this goes again to the e-book. Now, I do not know, is the film additionally set the place you had set the e-book, which is Casper Wyoming?
Dana Volney:
That may be a dream. That may be a dream, Wendy, I do not know at this level, they’re making an attempt, however they wish to movie in New Mexico. So there’s completely different, , credit for various issues, and positive, is likely to be location that it is thought of. So anyway, I am unsure but. I am nonetheless combating that good combat for as , little say as I’ve, however that may be the dream.
I imply, clearly, it is set in Casper. There’s completely different landmarks and issues I considered after I was writing it, however I do not know but.
Wendy Corr:
That may be very, very cool. However I like the truth that your vacation books, all your vacation books are set in Casper, Wyoming. And clearly you do not have to think about too far. Now, while you’re writing these thrillers, you need to have fairly the creativeness to set your thrillers in these different locations.
However to have the vacation romances in Casper, it is simply obtained to be like once more, visiting previous mates.
Dana Volney:
After all, yeah, while you’re considering of small city, some individuals make up cities. I’ve definitely made up cities. However I used to be like, No, I simply, now we have a, , small, small city. And so it is like, let’s simply do it right here. I like Casper.
Wendy Corr:
Effectively, I believe all people must learn this e-book just because, and skim this novella just because it brings you dwelling. I imply, it does. It brings you dwelling. The identify of the hospital that Silver works at is completely different from the Casper hospital, however nonetheless, you are obtained the Wyoming wind. It is Christmas and it is only a, it is an amazing, nice story.
And I am so tickled that I used to be in a position to learn it. It was a brief, brief turnaround between reserving this and recording this podcast, however I am so glad that I used to be in a position to learn that. I sit up for studying extra of those books.
Let’s speak about your characters. I obtained in your Fb web page in preparation for this, and one of many issues that you just had put up there was about the way you’re writing the characters, and these are individuals that you just created, however then they form of take over. Inform me about that, as a result of the writing course of, it is, it is such a distinct means, your mind has to work in a complete completely different means
Dana Volney:
It does. And it is actually form of bizarre, as a result of, , I make up these individuals, proper?
Wendy Corr:
You’re the creator.
Dana Volney:
I would like them to be sturdy, or I would like them to have this flaw, or, , no matter. However after you form of get that set, they form of simply tackle, truthfully, a lifetime of their very own. They’re their very own individuals.
So it is as if I am picturing my mother and sister. You are having a dialog, and what I do know them to say, , as a result of you possibly can form of anticipate what your family members are going to say. And so it simply, it form of takes on a lifetime of its personal.
And whereas I do know I am a little bit of a “pantser” within the business, so I do not, I do not meticulously plan every thing with the plot – I’ve it arrange, and a common concept of how I would like it to go or how I would like it to finish. However I like simply to take the experience with the readers – as I am writing, I am form of studying the e-book, if that is sensible.
And it is simply extra enjoyable for me that means, as a result of if I already know the story, then why do I wish to write it, I assume? And they also simply form of tackle a lifetime of their very own, and so they turn out to be their very own individuals, and the way they react, which may typically take me for a loop, and it goes in a distinct path than I believed it could be.
Or they’re extra mad. The opposite day I used to be writing, and he was actually mad about one thing, and I did not see that coming. So it is simply form of bizarre.
Wendy Corr:
It’s such as you’re channeling, you are channeling these characters.
Dana Volney:
Sure, it is a very, it may be a really bizarre expertise to be, like this film is taking part in in my head, and I am simply form of writing, what’s what I see, and what’s occurring with these individuals speaking. However they’re primarily nonetheless me. So it is bizarre.
I do not actually put, like, it isn’t my character, essentially. It is not me doing these issues. So it is, you by no means need individuals as an creator to image you because the characters, as a result of that is not the case. So it is bizarre. It is simply bizarre.
Wendy Corr:
Though I’ve to say, while you’re describing Silver in your e-book, she’s blonde and blue eyed. And that’s you.
Dana Volney:
Generally you want what you want. And blonde, not all the time. They don’t seem to be all the time blonde.
Wendy Corr:
I simply assume that it is so fascinating for these of us who do not write, to determine, how does the character tackle a lifetime of its personal? And it simply, like, inhabits a distinct a part of your mind, and it simply form of, it is virtually a number of character.
Dana Volney:
I imply, truthfully, it’s these individuals speaking in my head and these plots occurring, as a result of midway via the e-book, possibly, or edits, for positive, you plot extra, however like, after I’m simply writing the primary draft, after which issues occur within the plot, however then it like circles again, if I simply hold going.
Like, your mind is a tremendous software. And in my case, if I do not overthink it an excessive amount of, it’s going to work itself out, which is simply one thing I’ve found not too long ago, if I form of let my Kind A go somewhat bit.
And so it is, it has been form of enjoyable. It has been a experience, however it’s a bizarre expertise while you actually get into it, while you’re writing – , individuals that aren’t you, doing issues you wouldn’t do. I do know tips on how to shoot a gun. I grew up doing that and various things. It is not like I’m on the market looking individuals. One in all my sequence is, they’re assassins. Like, that is not what I am doing.
Wendy Corr:
So how do you analysis for a plot like that?
Dana Volney:
I’ve bizarre Google searches, Wendy, very bizarre. So I’ll attain out to individuals I do know. My dad would assist me with some gun stuff, , and I’ve form of a distant member of the family that works in a coroner’s workplace, if I’ve query about discovering a physique, or, , one thing like that.
And so simply quite a lot of Google, or use who I do know. I used to be enthusiastic about a bounty looking sequence, and I met an individual at a craft present that has expertise with that. And so we’d have espresso quickly.
Wendy Corr:
The individuals who stay in Wyoming!
Dana Volney:
I do know, like, , regular on a regular basis people who that is their job, or they’ve expertise in or quite a lot of Googling and simply bizarre. I do not even activate an incognito browser. I simply Google, as a result of at this level, whoever’s watching simply ought to know my Google it is gonna be actual bizarre.
Wendy Corr:
That’s completely superior. You have talked about your kind A character. I wish to shift actual rapidly and speak about the truth that this isn’t your full time job.
Dana Volney:
No, I’ve a full time job.
Wendy Corr:
And so how do you stability being a advertising guide with shoppers all around the state, with writing these wonderful tales?
Dana Volney:
I do business from home, in order that form of helps. I say I set my very own schedule, however each consumer is sort of a boss, and so that you reply to quite a lot of completely different individuals, proper? And so I attempt to simply manage my schedule and the way in which that I do know I can take time to jot down. After which, like, I’ve days the place I’ve to give attention to my advertising work and get issues performed.
And I am an evening owl by commerce, and so possibly quite a lot of writing will get performed at evening. And the place I work extra within the day. Generally that will get flipped relying on my temper, I assume, as a result of additionally, like, I can block out a complete day to jot down, however is that going to be a writing day? Not all the time. However, butt in chair is sort of a mantra of most writers. You’ve simply obtained to sit down down and attempt to do it.
However, yeah, it is quite a lot of, I see my writing as a consumer, and so I attempt to schedule appropriately, with out letting anyone down. So it is taken some time. I’ve had my advertising enterprise, in Might it turns 15, so I’ve had a few years to determine my schedules, which, the way in which I work adjustments yr after yr.
After which with my writing. I have been writing since 2012 and so, , they’ve all the time form of been actually one for me. And so simply making an attempt to, it isn’t all the time an excellent stability, however I strive my hardest at that.
Wendy Corr:
And so you have obtained all of those, you’ve obtained to be a corporation queen so as to have the ability to do all this.
Dana Volney:
Yep, I’ve obtained my cellphone calendar, I’ve my written calendar. I’ve my Kanban board for targets, which I like setting targets. I’ve obtained notebooks for shoppers. I’ve obtained, yeah, like, I simply love me an excellent journal. Love me some stickers and a few washi tape and a few to-do lists.
Wendy Corr:
You and I are wildly comparable, wildly comparable. That is incredible. Dana, what’s subsequent for you then? I imply, you have obtained Volney ventures, which is your advertising firm. You have obtained all these books out. You have obtained the filming coming. When is the filming going to happen for Vacation Hearts?
Dana Volney:
So proper now they’re Might, June, someplace round there, I believe, from my understanding. It takes about three or 4 weeks to movie one thing like this, and in order that’ll be down in New Mexico, which is absolutely thrilling, in order that’s going to occur right here quickly. And simply so thrilling.
I’ve one other vacation e-book out on spec with the writer that publishes all my different books, so we’ll see in the event that they take that one. I have never heard again but. We simply despatched that proposal in as a result of I believe it could be enjoyable so as to add to this sequence with the film popping out. So we’d see a man who owns a taco truck and a lady who owns a doggy daycare. After all, Casper.
Wendy Corr:
Will it’s summer time this time, or will it nonetheless be a Christmas?
Dana Volney:
He’s wished a taco truck, and now it is winter, and that is not an amazing concept. And so he is gotta win some cash, and that is the premise of the e-book. So all of them must work collectively. I am a giant enemies to lovers fan. I simply assume the dynamic is so enjoyable. Some, quite a lot of my books are enemies to lovers.
Wendy Corr:
Coronary heart for the Holidays was not.
Dana Volney:
That one not essentially, it is extra, I assume, mates to lovers, you possibly can say, as a result of she goes in, she decides she needs to save lots of him and make him, spoiler alert, he needs off the guts transplant listing, and she or he runs the transplant listing, and she or he decides that she’s going to point out him life is value dwelling. And he runs a kind of meals financial institution form of state of affairs for youths.
So she goes there to speak him again into wanting on the listing, and she or he finally ends up volunteering. And they also do turn out to be mates. And, and, yeah, so this one will not be essentially enemies.
Wendy Corr:
No, it isn’t enemies, however these are enjoyable. These are the twists. It is like one thing is irritating about this individual, however that is simply because I am really secretly interested in them. And sure, yeah, all of these issues.
Do you get inspiration from different books that you just learn? Do you get inspiration from individuals that you just meet, from films that you just see? I imply, does one thing simply spark you and say, You understand what? That may make an amazing plot.
Dana Volney:
I do. I imply, I believe every thing round you may be just a bit morsel of it. You understand, the e-book that I simply completed, that I’ve drafted, it began as a result of I learn a sequence that I really hated. I hated it. I learn all three books anyway. It was a mafia romance, really, however I hated it. However I occurred to see an article that mentioned one thing about, prefer it takes 88 days to fall in love.
And that, between my hatred of the books I simply obtained performed studying and that article, one thing sparked in me. I wanted to start out a brand new story and write a brand new enemies to lovers, however they occur to be married, and in order that sparked that.
After which away I went. And so that you by no means know simply the place issues will form of like combine in your head collectively, I assume. So that you simply form of take it, take little bits from completely different locations, yeah.
Wendy Corr:
And the place can we discover your books? I do know I discovered them on Amazon, and you have a web site.
Dana Volney:
Yep, I do, danavolney.com is my web site. Yow will discover hyperlinks to the books there. My YouTube channel is linked there. And so they’re all proper now, I believe they’re huge so you’ll find them anyplace that you just learn. Most likely quickly they are going to enter Kindle Limitless, although. So in case you do not learn on Kindle or on Amazon, you most likely wish to go get them now, as a result of I believe this summer time that they are going to enter Kindle Limitless.
The vacation books, like these are my self printed books, which weren’t all self printed, however now I’ve the rights again to all of them. The vacation books, although, are with a writer, and they’re huge, so these you’ll find anyplace that you just learn, and so they’re in two – so the six books which can be the vacation books are in two bundles. So you should purchase a bundle that has three of the novellas collectively proper now.
Wendy Corr:
That is what I had performed. I purchased the one which had ‘Coronary heart for the Holidays’ in it, and so now I am trying ahead to studying the opposite two that have been round it, as a result of that was the center e-book in there. So that is, however the publishing a part of it, that can also be, I imply, that is a trick. How did you get seen? How did you discover a writer? And there is a course of there.
Dana Volney:
Yeah, it may be actually arduous, and I positively obtained quite a lot of rejections. And in order that’s, , you write a question letter, you inform them what the identify of your e-book is, what the tropes are, the place the class it falls, what number of phrases that it’s, and you then ship your question letters out to both brokers or publishers.
On the time, I used to be simply straight submitting to publishers after which I obtained it picked up. I really particularly wrote, my first e-book known as ‘Vacation Hoopla,’ and I had discovered a writer who put out a name for brief, , novella sized Christmas books. And since I beloved Christmas a lot, I used to be like, Yeah, okay, I am going to do that. I can do that completely.
And I obtained on my treadmill desk, and away I went. So I solely submitted that e-book really to that writer, as a result of I particularly wrote it for who occurred to choose it up. And on the time the top of that firm, who’s now my agent – in order that’s how I met my agent – and so then we fashioned a relationship, and I used to be in a position to hold, , querying them with no matter I used to be writing.
As a result of I do not all the time keep in the identical lane, which is tough for me, as a result of I’ve quite a lot of pursuits. So I wish to write a candy vacation, however I wish to write attractive suspense, or I wish to write center of the highway one thing. And I do not know, I am form of far and wide.
However that is how I fashioned that relationship. However I had positively advert realized the method of, okay, that is what’s customary within the business. That is what individuals are searching for while you question them. That is what a synopsis is, which is a 3 to 5 web page abstract of your e-book and the way you write a kind of. And so I positively needed to study these steps.
So I did largely publishing via a writer, after which in like 2016 or 17, I did simply flat out self printed my very own e-book, which is that one is ‘No Good Useless,’ after which you’ve got ‘No Good Reality.’ So these have all the time been self printed, however via completely different years and occasions, I now have the rights again to every thing, apart from the vacation books.
So positively, you need to do your analysis on the business. Begin following individuals. Begin following brokers you want. So an excellent place to start out is books that you just get pleasure from and the style you are writing in. See who their brokers are. See who’s publishing them. Go look them up. Begin there, discover out what they’re searching for.
Not all brokers are all the time open to submissions, or solely sure instances a yr. Generally publishers need it via an agent, or you are able to do it your self. And in order that’s the place I’d begin, after which you possibly can form of snowball and together with your analysis, and go from there.
Wendy Corr:
That is nice data. Thanks. It is, to me, once more, not being a author, I believe that that is simply fascinating, the method of the way you even get seen in such a large area, proper?
Dana Volney:
Yeah, so many individuals are submitting, and so many authors who’re great and who’re self publishing. And so there’s simply, I neglect the quantity, however it’s like 1000’s of books a day are newly printed to love Amazon. And so it is arduous to form of reduce via that fray and discover your voice and inform your story.
Wendy Corr:
However you’ve got performed that. You discovered your voice. You are telling your tales, and other people have seen. And now ‘Vacation Hearts’ goes to be filmed in Might, starring Jen Lilley, Kathleen Quinlan, Michelle Hurd and Dana Volney!
Dana Volney:
Me and my sister within the background, possibly!
Wendy Corr:
That’s fabulous. Dana, this has been such a enjoyable dialog, and I am simply thrilled that we have got, that we are able to declare you as a local Wyomingite. We will declare you and your success in saying, have a look at the expertise that now we have right here in Wyoming, and in Casper.
Dana Volney:
Thanks for having me on.
Wendy Corr:
This has simply been enjoyable. And I want that you just and I may sit down and have espresso someday – like I say, I believe that we’re wildly comparable in so some ways. This has been only a grand dialog. Dana, thanks, and good luck with all the issues that you’ve arising. And I am unable to wait to learn your subsequent story.
So now I am following you on Amazon, so now I’ve obtained you there. And people, you have to observe Dana Volney on Amazon, or you have to look her up in Casper, in case you are in want of promoting providers, Volney Ventures in Casper, Dana is the one to speak to.
So Dana, thanks. Good luck. Thanks for being our visitor as we speak. People, thanks for tuning in as we speak. What a enjoyable dialog this has been. Subsequent week, we have got one other nice dialog arising. We hope that you will tune in – and return and see a few of our different conversations that we have had.
We have been doing this now for, oh my goodness, virtually a yr and a half, with these conversations with essentially the most attention-grabbing individuals in Wyoming, and Dana Volney definitely counts as one among them.
So of us, have an amazing week. Tune in subsequent week.
