Canadian authors Silvia Moreno-Garcia, Mona Awad and Jen Sookfong Lee are all recognized for his or her use of surrealism and horror of their writing.
On a panel for Bookends on the Vancouver Writers’ Competition, they joined Mattea Roach to debate their newest novels and the way horror helps them get at bigger truths surrounding the feminine expertise.
Vancouver-based Moreno-Garcia is the writer of Canada Reads 2023 finalist Mexican Gothic and, most lately, The Bewitching, which follows three ladies in three completely different timelines, every haunted by a mysterious drive tied to witchcraft, secrets and techniques and a lethal legacy that refuses to remain buried.
Born in Montreal, Awad is the writer of 5 novels, together with We Love You, Bunny, which was shortlisted for this yr’s Giller Prize. It’s a prequel and a sequel to her smash hit, Bunny, and provides the villains an opportunity to inform their story.
Lee is a Vancouver writer, broadcaster and podcaster. Her new novel, The Starvation We Handed Down, weaves intergenerational trauma and motherhood right into a ghost story set between Hong Kong and Vancouver.
Mattea Roach: Why do you suppose horror particularly is such a strong device for depicting the feminine expertise?

Silvia Moreno-Garcia: You may inform a narrative realistically of one thing occurring. For instance, as a girl, you get sick and it’s important to have your uterus eliminated, which occurred to me final yr. You may inform that realistically: a girl’s cry, she’s going to the physician. All of the drama and the despair and all that.
However you too can inform it in a surrealist approach. Possibly you will have an alien rising in your physique and it is about to blow up. Typically that feels extra actual and correct than if you happen to paint it in a practical approach that will get into the emotions and the universe that you simply’re experiencing.
Mona Awad: I completely agree with that. All’s Nicely, my third novel, is about continual ache and I struggled with continual ache. All’s Nicely has lots of horror parts to it simply in depicting the expertise of what it is wish to stay with continual ache.
The factor I really like about horror is that often, the primary character who’s affected by the monster, no matter type it takes, often is not believed. They are not taken critically and that is why the menace looms so giant.
For girls, I feel that is true of their expertise on this planet. Day by day, your lived expertise is continually being undermined and devalued. You are informed that your actuality just isn’t true and that that’s horror. That’s the expertise of being in a horror story. So I feel it is a actually potent device for girls to provide expression to what it is like to only be in our our bodies, each day on this world.
I do have an actual nervousness round what it means to be female and simply the expectations round that, the constraints round that. Who determines what’s female? However I am additionally enchanted by all issues female, too. I’ve acknowledged that it has energy, although it is sort of a form shifting factor, a form shifting idea, my work is grappling with.

Jen Sookfong Lee: I at all times felt that Asian ladies should not inspired to be offended. We’re not inspired to shout or be offended. We’re supposed to show our youngsters piano and do your taxes.
I actually felt the trend. Particularly if you happen to push it down, you push it down, you push it down, it turns into its personal demon dwelling within you.
After I was approaching this guide, I assumed, “Nicely, what if that demon dwelling within you was truly an precise demon you could see and combat and be horrified by and that scares you. And what if that demon additionally was additionally swallowing all your intergenerational trauma? Nicely, you realize what? That demon goes to be mad.”
What energy does horror written by and about ladies provide you with as an writer and as a reader of horror?

MA: It’s the ability to provide language to one thing that once you expertise it within the second, you don’t have any language for. I feel that is been the case for me with nearly each novel that I’ve written. Normally it’s going to come from a second the place I really feel profoundly powerless and I’ve no language. I am transfixed, I am obsessed, I am scared, I am offended. One thing has rendered me with out speech, with out language, after which that can give beginning to some sort of concept.
Then, by following that concept and writing the story, I’ve language and I can share it with another person who can then perhaps see themselves in that very same expertise. It simply offers me the ability to say one thing that’s unsayable within the second. And the surreal is a large a part of how horror makes that occur.
It simply offers me the ability to say one thing that’s unsayable within the second.– Mona Awad
SMG: It’s simply a lot enjoyable. I imply, who would not prefer it? We’re speaking about ghost tales right here. It is a bit bit like once you have been a child and also you have been grossing one another out with these tales. It is a very energetic area. It additionally comes with lots of symbols and symbols which have meanings you could reuse. The mad lady within the attic. Nicely, is she actually mad? The useless grandmother, all that sort of stuff that may be very chewy.
JSL: I feel for me, it is actually essential to provide area to all of these actually ugly feelings that ladies should not allowed to carry out or enact in public and on this novel. All the pieces that I do, I attempt actually laborious to provide ladies, notably Asian ladies, the area to only be themselves and to say and specific every part they wish to. I simply need everybody to know that their ugly issues are protected with me and my books too.
This interview has been edited for size and readability. It was produced by Lisa Mathews.
